陳坤：走慢一點 傾聽「心」聲
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陳坤上月底發起「行走的力量」公益活動，連當時人在美國度蜜月的周迅也親赴現場，為她的好哥們助興。他與幾十名志願者在敦煌艱苦行走六天，累計走了150公里，以「自虐」的形式來獲取內心的力量。陳坤說，「行走」大家都會，只要把行走的既定城市換掉，就像到一個陌生的地方旅行一樣，依據自己的經驗，一定會有收穫。於是，推生了「行走的力量」。
「行走的力量」公益項目由陳坤在2011年發起，旨在號召人們通過最本能的行走，在行走中安靜下來，與內心對話。通過「自省自救」的方式，讓更多人獲得內心的正面力量，也將正能量傳遞給更多人。
【心靈公益】為都市人「除心病」
新京報：說一說發起「行走的力量」公益項目的緣起。
陳坤：緣起於三年前的一個發心。我們不缺好的慈善團隊，而有那麼多人關注我、支持我，我在想自己能不能也做公益呢？後來，決定將公益活動提升到「心靈」層級，因為發現整個社會都在追求物質，人們步伐太快，不是說大家沒有內心，而是沒時間跟內心交流。
新：於是有了「行走的力量」？
陳：想想小時候還有點時間可以去河邊游泳，聽見蟬叫的聲音、樹葉的嘩啦聲，現在大家擠公車擠地鐵、開車堵車，處理一大堆該處理不該處理的事，回到家時已疲憊不堪。整個社會像個大機器一樣催促著你，但實際上，我們的生活需要一個平衡，該追求快節奏時去追求，有時你要放緩，不然身體和心靈是病的，有了這個發現後，我認為做這樣一個心靈公益項目可能會有意思。
新：2011年，你將首次「行走的力量」公益行動選在了西藏。
陳：我是一個非常熱愛西藏的人。平時我們坐下來都在玩手機，到西藏（部分地區）就沒有信號了；另外，活動要求參與者保持安靜，慢慢讓自己在「既枯燥又陌生」的環境裡，跟自己的內心待在一起。每天在特別特別累的狀態中，你會發現你的腦子就靜下來了，內心的安靜就出現了。
新：從行走西藏無人區，到前不久行走敦煌遭遇沙塵暴，是否危險？
陳：非常危險。人在做每一個項目時都會遇到很多未知，比如近日在敦煌行走。行走首日，我們的所有鞋子，由於地面溫度71℃，全部開膠。我們馬上調飛機把貨運來，把鞋換了；在第二天晚上，我們遇到了沙塵暴；過了兩天我們又遇見了軍事演習，當時已經紮好營了，為了安全，我們又要走到5公里之外重新紮營。
【自虐之旅】 幫參與者「找自己」
新：面對危險，會不會有提前預案？
陳：必然。在正式行走前，我們會進行拓展訓練，體能不好的人可選擇不參與，我們有隊醫等專業志願者，我們還要細心觀察參與者的毅力夠不夠。在艱苦環境中，很多參與者都扛住了。你腳上有泡，挑了繼續走；走不動了，休息兩三個小時。
新：這算不算自虐？
陳：沒錯，我覺得已經算是自虐了。某種意義上說，「行走的力量」是說在一個艱苦的環境下，你來挑戰自己的極限，體能的極限，枯燥的極限，並且你們內在會有一些變化。
新：近日敦煌行讓你印象深刻的事是什麼？
陳：凌晨3點多，沙塵暴來了，沙塵暴吹打著帳篷讓你感覺生命快沒了。我出來看，全是風沙，能見度只有一米多，我非常焦急，就把志工全叫起來，大家幫參與者去踩帳篷的地釘，我們踩了整晚。我希望參與者們能感覺他們是安全的，我們幾十個人在外面保護他們。
新：擔任活動的志工會不會影響自己靜心？
陳：這個項目最主要是為參與者做的，如果我為了獲取力量靜心去行走，我當然可以一個人背著包，叫上三五好友，去尼泊爾或西藏走一下，不用興師動眾，這樣肯定更純粹。
新：你發起這個行走是不是和你過去的一些經歷有關？
陳：我在單親家庭長大，小時候不愛說話，經常獨自從外婆家到媽媽的工廠，那時六七歲，經常冒著炎熱走一個多小時。走就覺得挺開心，我也很容易一邊走一邊編故事，所以我知道人走路不說話的過程，人腦子活動得很快，這都是我小時候經驗。
長大更是這樣，比如夢想沒實現及對未來苦惱，等等，我就在外面一直走。走的過程很快樂。這些經歷跟行走的力量有點契合。
新：成名之後，還會經常通過行走獲取力量？
陳：以前在國外旅行時我就很喜歡徒步的線路，阿爾卑斯山、尼泊爾的徒步線路我都非常熱愛，到一些較為艱苦的環境裡會覺得高興。在城市裡，就很容易嬌慣自己，冷氣開26℃還覺得不夠涼，一定要到22℃，還不夠涼，要到18℃，永遠都能找到一個不滿足的要批判的點，但真到大自然你會發現身體的適應能力太厲害。
【傻瓜做事】面對質疑「很坦然」
新：行走的力量持續了四年，對你有什麼幫助？
陳：我在堅持一個我認為是對的事情。另外，對我個人的事業，包括我去做項目時的辨識度，做選擇，包括內在的韌性，等等，都有很大提升。
新：也許有人認為「行走的力量」是「傻瓜」做的事情。
陳：這個世界上沒有所有人意見一邊倒的事，我反倒很感謝那些質疑的人，他們給我一個提醒，我們應該做該做的事情，只要你質疑得有道理，而非無理謾罵，這會變成一個監督，一個推動。
新：遇到過什麼質疑嗎？
陳：質疑總是有的，但是我也不能天天總盯著質疑，我該做什麼還是會去做，你們質疑，我很感謝，但我也不能天天看著這些質疑事情就不做了。
新：有人說明星通過做公益來實現名利雙收，動機不純。
陳：這樣也非常好，為什麼不可以名利雙收？那我是明星的名，還是公益的名，起碼我做了公益嘛，我們沒有天天演花邊新聞嘛，所以我在做應該做的事情，別人怎麼看那是他的角度，但不能因此就不做想做的事了。
新：除了行走的力量，你還做過關愛兒童等多項公益項目。
陳：我總覺得我現在已經得到很多了，足夠了，我未來還可以拍戲賺錢，如果能把我剩下的時間去做一些我認為有意義的事，我們就去做一些，如果能夠幫到一點忙，那就去幫。反正能做我就盡量去做，我就是這麼想的，很簡單，沒有很高大上的東西。看到一個人需要幫忙，就去幫，這是應該做的。
新：行走的力量會一直持續下去嗎？
陳：每個項目有自己的命運，也會有它在這個世界上存在的價值，如果有一天，大家覺得這個項目沒有存在的必要時自然就沒有了，那就不用做了。我不會提前計畫好做個10年20年，每年都要像我第一年做的那個初心一樣很用心在做，每年都不要草率。
新京報：你最喜歡聽到參與者發生什麼改變？
陳坤：真的讓大家靜下來思考，重新發現自己。
網友大哉問：任帥臉被摧殘？「不曬黑也會老」
Q：你曬得這麼黑，上帝給你的美貌你卻不珍惜。
陳坤：我的美貌不是說不曬黑，他們還沒有明白，我很感謝他們比我還保護我的皮膚，有點像我的品牌對我的關注，但是我更想做一個什麼時候都快快樂樂的人，因為早晚有一天我的皮膚會不好，不會被曬黑也會慢慢衰老，難道衰老我就沒有存在的意義了嗎？不是的，我要做一個快樂的人，這樣才是我的影迷朋友最好的朋友。
Q：行走可以通過溝通交流建立更好的友誼關係，而你卻倡導不說話，一路沉默，很奇怪。
陳坤：這沒關係，每個人都有自己的體悟，可能這個網友明白了我的項目會來參加我的項目，就好像我的公司有一些規定，這些規定我認為對你有意義，但是如果你覺得這個規定你不能理解，你可以選擇另外說話的項目。
Q：跟著你這樣的帥哥去，激動，所以不是靜心是擾心。
陳坤：去了之後你會發現，我完全不是個帥哥，我只是個同行者，比你們還糟糕，髒兮兮的，吃住都在一起，吃同樣的飯，睡同樣的帳篷，這個時候，我不是演員。
http://udn.com/NEWS/ENTERTAINMENT/ENT8/8868789.shtmlChen Kun: Listen to go a little slower "heart" sound [World News ╱ Entertainment News Group / roundup] 2014.08.15 03:29 am Chen Kun launched at the end of "power walking" public activities, even when the honeymoon in the United States Zhou Xun also went to the scene, for her good buddy add to the fun. He and dozens of volunteers in Dunhuang hard to walk six days, a total of 150 kilometers away, to "self-flagellation" form to get inner strength. Chen Kun said, "walk" we will, as long as the walk to replace the established city, like to travel like a strange place, based on their experience, there will be a harvest. Then, push birth "power walking." "Power walking" charity project initiated by Chen Kun in 2011, aimed at getting people to walk through the most instinctive, quiet, walking in a dialogue with the heart. By "introspective self-help" approach, so that more people get heart positive force, but also to pass positive energy to more people. [Welfare] for urbanites soul "Apart from heart disease." Beijing News: talk initiated origin "power walking" public welfare projects. Chen Kun: Origins on a heart and three years ago. We do not lack good charity team, but there are so many people concerned about me, support me, and I was wondering if I could also do public service it? Later, the decision to upgrade to charitable activities "soul" level, as found in the pursuit of material throughout society, people too quickly, not to say that we did not mind, but do not have time to communicate with the heart. New: So with "power walking"? Chen: Think a little time a child can go to the river to swim, I heard the sound of cicadas called, leaves clatter, now we catch the bus crowded subway, drive traffic jams, the process should not deal with things a lot of processing time at home have been exhausted. Society as a whole like a big machine like urging you, but in fact, we need a balanced life, the pursuit of fast-paced time to pursue, sometimes you have to slow down, or are sick of body and mind, with this discovery , I think to do such a project might be interesting spiritual welfare. New: 2011, you will be the first "power walking" public action election in Tibet. Chen: I am a very loving people of Tibet. Usually we have to sit down and play phone, Tibet (in some areas), there is no signal of; addition, activities require participants to keep quiet, and slowly let himself in, "both boring and strange" environment, with his heart to stay together. In particular special day tired state, you will find that your mind will calm down, the heart of quiet appeared. New: no man's land of Tibet from walking, to walk Dunhuang recently suffered storm, whether the danger? Chen: very dangerous. People do every project will encounter many unknowns, such as recently in Dunhuang walking. Walking on the first day, all of our shoes, because the ground temperature is 71 ℃, all open plastic. We'll transfer the cargo to the aircraft, the shoes changed; the next night, we encountered a sandstorm; Two days later we met the military exercises, was already tied up camp, for safety, we have to go 5 km outside the camp again. [Trip] to help participants self-flagellation "find himself." New: the face of danger, will have advance plans? Chan: inevitable. Before the formal walk, we will expand training, physical bad people choose not to participate, we have doctors and other professional volunteers, we have to carefully observe the participants enough perseverance. In difficult circumstances, many participants Kang Zhu. There soak your feet, pick up continue to go; walk, rest for two to three hours. New: Is this not self-flagellation? Chan: Yes, I think that has been regarded as a self-flagellation. In a sense, "power walking" is a saying in a difficult environment, you come to challenge their own limits, physical limits, boring limit, and you have some internal changes. New: Recently Dunhuang impressive line to let you do what is? Chen: 3:00 more storms came, sandstorms blowing banner tent makes you feel life running out. I came out to see, full of sand, visibility is only one meter and more, I am very anxious, called all the volunteers put together, we will help the participants to step on to nail the tent, we stepped on the night. I hope that the participants were able to feel that they are safe, we are dozens of people on the outside to protect them. New: served as volunteer activities will affect their meditation? Chen: This project is for the participants to do the most important, if I get the strength to go walking meditation, I can certainly a person carries the package, called a few friends, go to Nepal or Tibet, look, do not scaled, so definitely more pure . New: You launched this walk is not, and some of your past experiences related? Chan: I grew up in single-parent families, child quiet, often alone, from grandma to the mother plant, then six-year-old, often braving the hot and go over one hour. Go I felt very happy, I can easily walked stories, so I know people do not speak to walk the course, the brain activity of people very quickly, this is my childhood experience. Grew even more so, for example, did not realize the dream of the future and distress, and so, I have to go outside. The process is very happy to go. These forces experiences with walking a little fit. New: after fame, will often gain strength by walking? Chen: In the past when traveling abroad I liked hiking routes, Alps, Nepal hiking trails I have very loving, to some of the more difficult environment will feel happy. In the city, it is easy to spoil yourself, air conditioning open 26 ℃ still feel cool enough, be sure to go to 22 ℃, cool enough, to go to 18 ℃, will never be able to find a critical point is not satisfied, but really to nature you will find the body's ability to adapt too much. [Fool] face the challenge of doing things "very calm." New: Walking forces lasted for four years, you have help? Chan: I insist on one thing I think is right. In addition, my personal career, including the identification of the project when I do, make choices, including the inherent toughness, etc., has greatly improved. New: Maybe some people think that "power walking" is a "fool" to do. Chen: There is no one-sided views of everyone in this world, and I am grateful to those who have actually questioned, they gave me a reminder that we should do the right thing, as long as you have reasonable doubt, not unreasonably abusive, it will become an oversight, a push. New: encountered any question it? Chen: Questioning is always there, but I can not stare at every day, always questioning, I do still do it, you question, I am grateful, but I can not look at these questions do not do things every day. New: Some people say that the star by doing public service to achieve fame and fortune, impure motives. Chen: this is also very good, why not fame and fortune? I was the star of the name, or the name of the public good, at least I did a charity thing, we do not play every day, gossip thing, so I'm doing the right thing, how people watch is his point of view, but is it therefore not do want to do things. New: In addition to the power of walking, you also worked caring for children and many other public projects. Chen: I always feel that I have now got a lot, enough, my future can also be filming money, if we can the rest of my time to do some meaningful things I think we do something, if we can help a little busy, then go. Anyway, I do try to do what I think is very simple, nothing very big on. See a person needs help, they go, which is supposed to do. New: power walking will always continue? Chen: Each project has its own destiny, will have its presence in this world value, if one day, we feel that when this project is no longer necessary naturally not, then do not do it. I do not plan well in advance to be 10 or 20 years, every year like I did that the first year of early heart very hard to do the same every year, not hasty. Beijing News: What is your favorite participant to hear what changes happen? Chen Kun: Really let everyone calm down and think, re-discover himself. User great questions: any handsome face was devastated? "No tan is also old." Q: You tan so dark, God gave you the beauty you do not cherish. Edward: I am not saying tanning beauty, they still do not understand, I am very grateful to them than I do to protect my skin, a bit like my brand of concern for me, but I want to be a happy music when almost people, because sooner or later there will be a bad day my skin will not tan will gradually aging, aging I do not have the meaning of existence yet? No, I want to be a happy person, so is my best friend, friends and fans. Q: Walking can build a better friendship through communication, but you do not speak to advocate the way silent, very strange. Edward: It's okay, everyone has their own sort of understanding, that users may understand my project would come to my project, just like my company there are some provisions that I think it makes sense to you, but if you think this regulations you can not understand, you can choose another project to speak. Q: You follow this guy to go, excited, so it is not meditation is disturbed heart. Chen Kun: go after you will find that I am totally not a guy, I'm just a fellow who is worse than you, dirty, room and board are together, eat the same food, the same tent to sleep, this time, I'm not an actor. http://udn.com/NEWS/ENTERTAINMENT/ENT8/8868789.shtml |
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